Yeah…this is probably another one of those “I told you so” moments, but according to one of my favorite YouTubers, namely SomeOrdinaryGamers, all the sites that call themselves “The Shadow Web” are fake: BEST CUSTOM POKEMON!! – Deep Web Browsing 45 (It’s the first site he reviews in the video.)
He backs up his claim by saying that people had specifically messaged him and told him that they had been ripped off by this specific site!
I really am not that surprised by this, because in my earlier post Dark Web Sites That *Claim* To Be Red Rooms, I corresponded with whomever the webmaster of this site was, and he refused to even show samples of his content unless you paid all the bitcoin up front. (Geez, even legal porn sites usually show you a few pictures first.)
And I’ve come across several other sites that have also claimed to be red rooms (which I think I mentioned in some of my first few posts). Now that I have a bit more experience on the dark web, I’m guessing that those sites were fake too.
On the Other Hand…
Nevertheless (and you may find this surprising), it’s still my opinion that something like red rooms may exist, although not quite in the way that people think.
Yes, you heard that right. Despite the fact that many people make claims to the contrary, I still think that they could exist. Now, I don’t have definitive proof of this, but let me explain.
Given that there are already incredibly sick things on the dark web (and I don’t just mean Tor!), it’s not a huge stretch of the imagination to think that there could be snuff films. One of the main arguments that red rooms couldn’t exist on the “dark web” is that its routing tends to be so slow that it would be impossible to live-stream something.
While murder is obviously illegal (in most countries, to my knowledge), people have made videos of torture and murder before, and there’s also a market for it. It must be the human fascination with death or something.
In the video Do Red Rooms Exist? 3 Deep Web Clues That Hint At the Existence of Red Rooms, YouTuber Be.Busta gives compelling evidence for their existence. One of the cases he refers to is that of Peter Scully, the man behind the notorious Daisy’s Destruction and other child abuse films (made by his production company, No Limits Fun).
Scully apparently did show videos of torture online through the dark web (although not necessarily over Tor). This is one of the major misconceptions about the dark web: it’s comprised of many networks – Tor is just the most popular. If you had the knowledge to create your own darknet, you probably could figure out how to stream video over it.
Is anyone familiar with the HORNET (high-speed onion-routing network) project? I’m still working on understanding it, but it aims to create the same privacy as Tor, but at a much faster speed. If you could have both the anonymity and the ability to stream video, I think that you could at least revise that part of the argument (that the dark is web too slow to live-stream anything.)
It definitely wouldn’t be advertised so blatantly. Once you knew how to access it, you would probably also have to pay a fortune in bitcoin. An operation like that would not be offered cheaply, and if it’s something that people have a genuine desire to see, I’m sure it would be lucrative.
Interestingly, I came across this article today while researching: Random Interviews: The Red Room Human Trafficker. Now, before you jump all over me and say that it’s fake, I never claimed that I could verify it – but, at the very least, it’s convincing.
To sum it up: the author, Daclaud Lee, interviews a man who claims to be a “red room human trafficker.” He describes how he got involved with a group who make “red room” videos, and that he’s one of the people who actually kidnaps the victims. I think the interview is fictitious, but it makes a compelling argument.
Are Snuff Films the Stuff of Legend?
Well, OK – it depends on your definition of “snuff film,” but The American Heritage Dictionary defines it as “a movie in a purported genre of movies in which an actor is actually murdered or commits suicide.” Some would include in this definition that they must be made for profit, which isn’t always the case, but videos of real murders and suicides exist.
It’s worth noting. Consider the fact that some serial killers like David Parker Ray, Luka Magnotta, Tsutomu Miyazaki, and the Dnepropetrovsk maniacs, Viktor Sayenko and Igor Suprunyuk (i.e. the creators of the video “3 Guys 1 Hammer”) have photographed and filmed the torture and murder of their victims. Also, consider the fact that “3 Guys 1 Hammer” and “1 Lunatic 1 Ice Pick” have gone viral, and it doesn’t seem so strange to imagine that people would want to watch live murder.
Just to clarify: I’m not saying that I support such a thing, or that I’d want to watch it, but just the mere fact that so many people deny the existence (or even the possibility) of red rooms makes me consider the opposite.
And were I ever to come across a real one, well…I wouldn’t be able to unsee it. I can say that with absolute certainty.
I think I’ll go watch cat videos now.