by Ciphas
So, continuing on the subject of red rooms, I received a comment recently on my post Red Rooms Finally Debunked Forever? that said this:
“THANK YOU Bob Saget. Just because red rooms don’t fit under your perfect “criteria”, that doesn’t mean they don’t exist. I personally know somebody who has been a part of a red room, but he wasn’t the murderer. He was the victim.”
She was replying to an earlier comment by someone who went by the name of Bob Saget (yes, that was his name), who gave me a hard time for trying to disprove the existence of red rooms, and cited Peter Scully’s videos as an example – in other words, this guy:
So here are my thoughts: what I’ve said so far about red rooms has been based partially on my personal experience, and also what I’ve researched about them. While I have not seen such a thing (or at least not one that I believe to be genuine), here is how I would define a red room:
A website (presumably on the dark web or a private network) where you can pay to witness torture and murder.
While I realize that some very sick things exist on Tor and other darknets (most notoriously child pornography), streaming video over Tor would be incredibly difficult, at least the way it works at present. If you don’t understand how onion routing works, this link explains it quite well: What Is Onion Routing, Exactly?
It is possible to watch video on Tor (and I have, in fact). As I mentioned on my recent post PsychoTube: The YouTube of Tor?, there are a few sites on which you can watch uploaded videos, but they certainly aren’t live. It’s very similar to LiveLeak, in that it features videos of murders, executions, and war. By the way, another dark web blog that I like, All Things Vice, has addressed this subject as well: You wanted darker web?
That being said, how does this square with the above comment? Well, my heart goes out to anyone who’s a victim of torture or murder; nonetheless, as far as that having something to do with red rooms, the burden of proof is on the claimant. One site on the clearnet, Red Room Deep Web Complete Guide, goes into detail about what allegedly happens in a red room, and how to see one (in theory).
Without reviewing all the things this site says about it, I think a number of them are wrong – and it looks like they’re using a scam site as their example. But you could, of course, create your own red room.
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How would you create a red room, then? Stay tuned for Part 2.
I enjoy your articles, but would like to add that you might just have accidentally stumbled upon a red room. Now I am not saying at all it is so, but word on irc is that psychotube was a tech test..and now has gone totally under ground and incognito…It just makes me wonder why?
Hmm, I don’t know. I’ll have to check that out. I wonder if Psycho Social Network is still up.
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Ohhhhhh i duuno about that. I can see some sick twisted club scooping people up and torturing them for online viewer profit. No way theyd broadcast them on Tor. Theyd prob be on another private secure server and the website being encrypted. Just an idea😏
Yes, I’ve heard that, actually. My main argument against red rooms on Tor was that streaming is difficult (besides the logistical issues). I think it would be easier on a private network.