Interview with NarcoTrafficante Part 2 (Chat Version)

One of my IRC buddies kindly informed me that the first part of this interview was “shit,” to use the technical term. I’ve also been getting requests from a few people about the second part of the interview, so I thought that I might as well publish it.

This part took place over XMPP and is a bit less formalized, so I’ve had to clean it up slightly – but it’s far more detailed than the first part, so I hope you enjoy it!

DISCLAIMER: Once again, the opinions shared here are the express views of NarcoTrafficante and do not reflect the views of Secrets of the Dark.

NarcoTrafficante: Send me your website again? This is where you are going to post the interview?

Secrets of the Dark: yeah. https://secretsofthedark.com

NT: So what are your goals? To make your website popular?


SotD: Yeah more or less, it already is pretty popular. I just look for interesting stories.


NT: I want to eventually make Deepdotweb nothing. The owner is a pedo faggot and that whole crew scams and is making the [dark web] look really bad.

NT: this is about free trade and freedom and they are doing it to fuck people

NT: yeah so we could make a good team in the future

SotD: sure why not?

NT: I need somebody like you and i could market this site
NT: as news for darkweb.
NT: something like that
NT: this site and others

SotD: ok cool!

NT: i am working on a lot of stuff
NT: drugs and others

SotD: markets?

NT: yes

NT: and other things

SotD: ah cool.

NT: to be honest
NT: i am a marketer
NT: i have been looking for programmers and keep getting screwed

SotD: Oh that sucks. I’m not a programmer, really.

NT: so im [sic] going to start to teach myself but also look for partners along the way
NT: yeah i am working with some people.

SotD: what do you know so far? Ok good.

NT: i am not stopping till things get to a better point

SotD: if you want to see something else I’ve done as a sample: RuTor Review

NT: i have not even gotten into that part yet really.
NT: this is fuckin awesome

SotD: Really? thanks!
SotD: I wrote a whole bunch on there
SotD: Dark Web Reviews – CGMC Review
SotD: for example

NT: so the darkweb reviews looks to be an old website

SotD: yeah it hasn’t been updated in quite some time.
SotD: it’s not my site…

NT: ahhh okay so what you did the work on it for somebody else?

SotD: yeah whoever the webmaster was
SotD: I was just looking around for sites to write for
SotD: and they said they needed some

NT: Yeah because this looks like a different crew
NT: Pretty interesting.
NT: This is a russian crew I think I guess.

SotD: Oh RuTor?
SotD: yes definitely.

NT: In general…
NT: Like here is the deal as far as I have learned.


SotD: uh huh.


NT: And you can use any of this stuff I say in the interview just if i say dont please dont.
NT: There are groups of people who have been running these darknet sites together for a while now.

SotD: uh huh.


NT: All these sites on that website are more or less one crew of people
NT: There is a marketer at the center pulling them all together.
NT: Like the other side I know about.


SotD: oh interesting…


NT: Deep dot web has an owner.
NT: Then dread has an owner
NT: Dream owns a few markets.
NT: Then there is Dream.


SotD: interesting…
SotD: which ones do they own?

NT: I think a marketer in dread is also involved with dream.

SotD: possibly…

NT: So all these places are tied together by the same people but there is conflict

SotD: strange. almost sounds like a conspiracy theory

SotD: but I know lots of people own multiple sites

NT: its actually fact i know this but we are all anonymous and things said between certain people in confidence I’m not going to show.

SotD: no worries.
SotD: is this the real link to your site? gangstas5qsooiz7.onion

NT: and yeah thats [sic] why most people just say oh conspiracy theory and thats [sic] it
NT: yeah
NT: that is the original link


SotD: ok. I saw a bunch of clone sites
SotD: so I wasn’t positive.

NT: no there is a few links
NT: like 5 i think

SotD: ah alright.
SotD: I tend to assume everything is a scam

NT: haha yeah you should

SotD: šŸ˜€

NT: because it probably is

SotD: yeah if it sounds too good to be true, it definitely is!
SotD: that’s my motto

NT: what these people learned and what they do is use reddit and forums to persuade users to use their sites. and since they are the mods they ban and censor all the other businesses out
NT: that is how the monopoly is able to survive.

SotD: hmm that makes sense
SotD: like when there was r/darknetmarkets?


NT: and deepdotweb is the center of it
NT: yeah
NT: thats the same people


SotD: how does he have that much power?


NT: and they keep exit scamming
NT: its different people


SotD: ah yes, this I know

NT: not just one guy

SotD: oh ok

NT: and people come and go

SotD: like DPR

NT: but the group is corrupted so nothing is going to change
NT: yep

SotD: well there was someone I spoke to via email

NT: dpr was one of the originals in this. i assume the original

SotD: Ross Ulbricht?

NT: but he gave somebody his real email at the start and that is what fucked him

SotD: yeah exactly.

NT: yeah ross is what i was talking about.
NT: i wasnt here from the very start.
NT: but i have been here for years everyday

SotD: I’ve been on Tor about three years


NT: and searching and learning and have found out about all of this.


SotD: what a mess, eh?


NT: yeah i have a little more than that


SotD: I use a few other darknets too


NT: yeah it is right now
NT: like what?


SotD: I2P, Freenet, ZeroNet, anonet
SotD: I’m more interested in the tech stuff


NT: Oh I thought you meant markets.


SotD: ohh well…


NT: Okay yeah I know this but not too much. Just heard the names.
SotD: I was looking into Cannazon
SotD: eh they just work differently.


NT: Yeah that is the same group.


SotD: ok hmmm


NT: I can’t say if they are good or bad.


SotD: that’s the problem.


NT: They are different I think. They maybe [sic] good.
NT: They are mainly european vendors as far as I gather.


SotD: that makes sense
SotD: I guess the only way to know for sure is to try the products.

NT: Well the thing is. Lots of people drop ship.

SotD: oh like escrow?
SotD: sort of?

NT: So say a market like wall street where the owner is a known scammer (hugbunter) he makes a dropshipping account and delivers one time the next fucks you and then bans you and what do you have but less coins and no voice.

SotD: hmmm interesting.

NT: yes they are using escrow to cry its a [safety] net but its really a way to collect more coins to their wallet before a scam.
NT: i am trying to come up with a better way.


SotD: if he’s a scammer, a lot of people trust him
SotD:
SotD: or seem to


NT: lol nobody trusts him that knows about this

SotD: ah ok.


NT: dread is 99% fake
NT: all one user.
NT: Hugbunter has already been caught in 2 scams


SotD: huh I figured that the individual markets had accounts on there
SotD: or so it would appear


NT: olympus, indirectly, viouching for them. i have the screen shots


SotD: oh yeah I know of that one…
SotD: never used it
NT: and he scammed a guy , who was most likely police, on nightmare market
(NT: and said he was hugbunter but then took it backz

SotD: Yeah more or less, it already is pretty popular. I just look for interesting stories.

NT: I want to eventually make Deepdotweb nothing. The owner is a pedo faggot and that whole crew scams and is making the [dark web] look really bad.

SotD: Really?

NT: this is about free trade and fredom and they are doing it to fuck people
NT: yeah so we could make a good team in the future

SotD: sure why not?

NT: i need somebody like you and i could market this site
NT: as news for darkweb\
NT: something like that
NT: \this site and others

SotD: ok cool!

NT: i am working on a lot of stuff
NT: drugs and others


SotD: markets?


NT: yes
NT: and other things


SotD: ah cool.


NT: to be honest
NT: i am a marketer
NT: i have been looking for programmers and keep getting screwed


SotD: Oh that sucks. I’m not a programmer, really.


NT: so im [sic] going to start to teach myself but also look for partners along the way
NT: yeah i am working with some people.


SotD: what do you know so far? ok good


NT: i am not stopping till things get to a better point


SotD: if you want to see something else I’ve done as a sample: http://darkweb.reviews/hydra-market-review/


NT: i have not even gotten into that part yet really.
NT: this is fuckin awesome


SotD: really? thanks!
SotD: I wrote a whole bunch on there
SotD: http://darkweb.reviews/rutor-review/
SotD: for example


NT: so the darkweb reviews looks to be an old website


SotD: yeah it hasn’t been updated in quite some time.
SotD: it’s not my site…


NT: ahhh okay so what you did the work on it for somebody else?


SotD: yeah whoever the webmaster was
SotD: I was just looking around for sites to write for
SotD: and they said they needed some


NT: Yeah because this looks like a different crew
NT: Pretty interesting.
NT: This is a russian crew I think I guess.


SotD: Oh RuTor?
SotD: yes definitely.


NT: In general…
NT: Like here is the deal as far as I have learned.


SotD: uh huh


NT: And you can use any of this stuff I say in the interview just if i say dont please dont.
NT: There are groups of people who have been running these darknet sites together for a while now.


SotD: uh huh.


NT: All these sites on that website are more or less one crew of people
NT: There is a marketer at the center pulling them all together.
NT: Like the other side I know about.


SotD: oh interesting…


NT: Deep dot web has an owner.
NT: Then dread has an owner
NT: Dream owns a few markets.
NT: Then there is Dream.


SotD: interesting…
SotD: which ones do they own?


NT: I think a marketer in dread is also involved with dream.


SotD: possibly…


NT: So all these places are tied together by the same people but there is conflict


SotD: strange. almost sounds like a conspiracy theory
SotD: but I know lots of people own multiple sites


NT: it’s actually fact i know this but we are all anonymous and things said between certain peopel [sic] in confidence im [sic] not going to show.


SotD: no worries.
SotD: is this the real link to your site? gangstas5qsooiz7.onion


NT: and yeah thats [sic] why most people just say oh conspiracy theory and thats [sic] it
NT: yeah
NT: that is the original link


SotD: ok. I saw a bunch of clone sites
SotD: so I wasn’t positive.


NT: no there is a few links
NT: like 5 i think


SotD: ah alright.
SotD: I tend to assume everything is a scam


NT: haha yeah you should


SotD: šŸ˜€


NT: because it probally [sic] is


SotD: yeah if it sounds too good to be true, it definitely is!
SotD: that’s my motto


NT: what these people learned and what they do is use reddit and forums to persuade users to use their sites. and since they are the mods they ban and censor all the other businesses out
NT: that is how the monopoly is able to survive.

SotD: hmm that makes sense
SotD: like when there was r/darknetmarkets?


NT: and deepdotweb is the center of it
NT: yeah
NT: thats [sic] the same people


SotD: how does he have that much power?


NT: and they keep exit scamming
NT: its [sic] different people


SotD: ah yes, this I know


NT: not just one guy


SotD: oh ok


NT: and people come and go


SotD: like DPR


NT: but the group is corrupted so nothing is going to change
NT: yep


SotD: well there was someone I spoke to via email


NT: dpr was one of the originals in this. i assume the original


SotD: Ross Ulbricht?


NT: but he gave somebody his real email at the start and that is what fucked him


SotD: yeah exactly.


NT: yeah ross is what i was talking about.
NT: i wasnt here from the very start.
NT: but i have been here for years everyday


SotD: I’ve been on Tor about three years


NT: and searching and learning and have found out about all of this.


SotD: what a mess, eh?


NT: yeah i have a little more than that


SotD: I use a few other darknets too


NT: yeah it is right now
NT: like what?


SotD: I2P, Freenet, ZeroNet, anonet
SotD: I’m more interested in the tech stuff


NT: Oh I thought you ment [sic] markets.


SotD: ohh well…


NT: Okay yeah I know this but not too much. Just heard the names.


SotD: I was looking into Cannazon
SotD: eh they just work differently.


NT: Yeah that is the same group.
SotD: ok hmmm


NT: I can’t say if they are good or bad.


SotD: that’s the problem.


NT: They are different I think. They maybe good.
NT: They are mainly european vendors as far as I gather.
SotD: that makes sense
SotD: I guess the only way to know for sure is to try the products

NT: Well the thing is. Lots of people drop ship.


SotD: oh like escrow?
SotD: sort of?


NT: So say a market like wall street where the owner is a known scammer (hugbunter) he makes a dropshipping account and delivers one time the next fucks you and then bans you and what do you have but less coins and no voice.


SotD: hmmm interesting.


NT: yes they are using escrow to cry its a saefty net but its really a way to collect more coins to their wallet before a scam.
NT: i am trying to come up with a better way.


SotD: if he’s a scammer, a lot of people trust him
SotD:
SotD: or seem to


NT: lol nobody trusts him that knows about this


SotD: ah ok.


NT: dread is 99% fake
NT: all one user.
NT: Hugbunter has already been caught in 2 scams


SotD: huh I figured that the individual markets had accounts on there
SotD: or so it would appear


NT: olympus, indirectly, viouching [sic] for them. i have the screen shots


SotD: oh yeah I know of that one…
SotD: never used it


NT: and he scammed a guy , who was most likely police, on nightmare market
NT: and said he was hugbunter but then took it backz [sic]

SotD: ohh well…


NT: Okay yeah I know this but not too much. Just heard the names.


SotD: I was looking into Cannazon
SotD: eh they just work differently.


NT: Yeah that is the same group.


SotD: ok hmmm


NT: I can’t say if they are good or bad.


SotD: that’s the problem.


NT: They are different I think. They maybe good.
NT: They are mainly european vendors as far as I gather.


SotD: that makes sense
SotD: I guess the only way to know for sure is to try the products


NT: Well the thing is. Lots of people drop ship.


SotD: oh like escrow?
SotD: sort of?


NT: So say a market like wall street where the owner is a known scammer (hugbunter) he makes a dropshipping account and delivers one time the next fucks you and then bans you and what do you have but less coins and no voice.


SotD: hmmm interesting.


NT: yes they are using escrow to cry its a saefty [sic] net but its really a way to collect more coins to their wallet before a scam.
NT: i am trying to come up with a better way.


SotD: if he’s a scammer, a lot of people trust him
SotD:
SotD: or seem to


NT: lol nobody trusts him that knows about this

SotD: ah ok.


NT: dread is 99% fake
NT: all one user.
NT: Hugbunter has already been caught in 2 scams


SotD: huh I figured that the individual markets had accounts on there
SotD: or so it would appear


NT: olympus, indirectly, viouching [sic] for them. i have the screen shots


SotD: oh yeah I know of that one…
SotD: never used it


NT: and he scammed a guy , who was most likely police, on nightmare market
NT: and said he was hugbunter but then took it back
NT: the pictures are now offline bu tthe post is findable
NT: on reddit
NT: he said something to the effect of you think i cant see when you log onto 2 accounts from the same tor circuit? i can see it on dread also.
NT: and the guy replied oh you own dread
NT: and he said no what i meant is we use the same software.
NT: this was right after he scammed a user and vendor with that market for 300


SotD: on Olympus?


NT: and the looks of trust you are talking about is because he erases all the posts on his forum so nobody can see and know about it\


SotD: hmmmm


NT: here ill [sic] send you the screen shots on olympus hold on


SotD: ok


NT: first off go look at the olympus subdread
NT: its [sic] is all erased
NT: everylast post
NT: im [sic] sure hed [sic] claim the “mods” did it
NT: hold on let me show you how the mods speak
NT: https://linx.li/kggw5w78.png
NT: https://linx.li/loqotudz.png
NT: https://linx.li/1djwi75u.png
NT: https://linx.li/vqhh8w61.png
NT: thats where he started to ban me from talking about it
NT: so basically to give you the run down about what happened
NT: they scammed (normal) and then the hgubunter announced a letter from the mod from the admin. but read the message it was spoken in third person
NT: appolon wrote is
NT: and said appolon spoke to ori
NT: something like that i need to reread it
NT: but then after i all it out


SotD: I recognize that last one


NT: hugbunter was claiming that is all checks out this and that and everything


SotD: hmmmm


NT: he is always so involved in everything meanwhile he is only a forum owner and does everything out of the goodness of his heart.


SotD: hahahaha
SotD: no I figured he must be profiting from it somehow.
SotD: people don’t do stuff for free on the dark web


NT: yeah
NT: he scammed me with trap house

SotD: just so you know I’m not out to make enemies
SotD: I try to be a neutral party


NT: hahaha
NT: no problem bro
NT: listen


SotD: hard to do that i know


NT: its better that way


SotD: you know psycho social network?


NT: i want our team to be,look, fair


SotD: that’s the only site I’m involved in.


NT: anyone can have an opinion
NT: freedom of speech


SotD: sure of course!


NT: they are not like that


SotD: not that I know of


NT: they are my enemies but [I’m] not going to act [like] them trying to censor me from the darknet because i am competition
NT: we can show their side too and when people get scammed there and come to me after they will know its true


SotD: that would prove it to me.
SotD: I am not sure what the truth is
SotD: šŸ˜€
SotD: I have become very paranoid because of shit like this
SotD: hahah


NT: for right now…. also between me and you.. and you can see i dont give a fuck thats why i am telling you this because fuck hugbunter.


SotD: no worries bro.

NT: Save all this shit because when he really gets caught you will have the information to put out there.


SotD: I’m logging it now šŸ™‚


NT: i bet we will see some upcomign [sic] shit happening soon enough\


SotD: i feel like this is the gossip column.


NT: the marketer claims that he can code but i know it is a lie and thats [sic] why there is a hold up on things changing
NT: hahahaaa
NT: bro thats what i do
NT: i am in the darknet drama club

3 thoughts on “Interview with NarcoTrafficante Part 2 (Chat Version)

  1. who cares what that stupid kid has to say? GP isn’t even popular it’s just a FUD fest, why does SOTD keep talking about GP? all respect lost for this site

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