To Debunk Red Rooms (Once and For All)

I’ve written quite a few posts attempting to debunk red rooms on this blog, but I think I’ve finally had the nail in the coffin (technology wise, anyway). Some of you already know this is the case, but there are still people who continue to insist on their existence. For those who don’t know, Invidious (which is a YouTube front-end) is now available over Tor, as both v2 and v3 onions.

The v2 address is http://kgg2m7yk5aybusll.onion/, and the v3 address is http://axqzx4s6s54s32yentfqojs3x5i7faxza6xo3ehd4bzzsg2ii4fv2iid.onion. First of all, in order for this site (or any other streaming site) to work over Tor, you have to either disable NoScript, or at least temporarily allow certain scripts. Otherwise, the videos won’t work at all.

Second of all, even with scripts enabled, the videos still tend to load slowly and buffer frequently. What this would mean, in the case of an actual red room, is that even though you can show videos over Tor, they would have a tendency to load at a slow rate. In my mind, this doesn’t make red rooms very feasible or profitable. As I’d also said on earlier posts about this subject, that doesn’t even take into the account that you’d have to continuously find victims to torture and kill, while still trying to remain anonymous.

Granted, this only applies to Tor – I haven’t tried streaming video over I2P or Freenet yet, but I would imagine you’d run into similar problems. Correct me if I’m wrong here!

Oddly enough, there is a site called “Deep Web Radio” which enables you to stream music over both I2P and Tor. Its Tor link is http://76qugh5bey5gum7l.onion/, and its I2P link is http://deepwebradio.i2p/i2p.xsl. Like Invidious, it does work, but it requires you to turn off NoScript, which could, in theory, deanonymize you. This screenshot is from the I2P site:

That isn’t so much of a problem if you’re just listening to radio streams, but if you were watching live murder, that might be a problem. It’s just a thought.

As for the sites that claim to be red rooms, as I’d said on previous posts, these are scams; don’t give them your money unless you want to be out several hundred bucks.

In conclusion, for me at least, that debunks red rooms. As I always say, though, if someone wants to contact me and give an example of how it could work, then feel free. I’m open to the possibility.

6 thoughts on “To Debunk Red Rooms (Once and For All)”

  1. you dont know enough about deepweb and darkweb technologies. the methods you outlined is not how redrooms operate – for the reasons exactly you mention. but redrooms are realized by means.

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